Episode 3 General Thread

The Gman · on27 Jul 2019, 17:11:13

I've made some research in leaked ep3 and hl3 related stuff, and here's the list.

###Weaponry###

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###NPCs###

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###SFM REMNANTS###

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###Misc###

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Evan · **Reply #1:** on27 Jul 2019, 19:09:43

Here is some stuff from the Valve Archive
Its a .tar but I exported it and rezipped it so its easier to move

The Gman · **Reply #2:** on27 Jul 2019, 19:53:22

Quote from: Evan on 27 Jul 2019, 19:09:43

Here is some stuff from the Valve Archive
Its a .tar but I exported it and rezipped it so its easier to move

Great, thanks. I used some things from valve achive for this
You put the tar inside (why?), and i know all these files. I just lost some traffic

The Gman · **Reply #3:** on27 Jul 2019, 20:09:26

Wait, wow! Look at that! A filter that tests the activator against multiple filters. This allows you to build more complex filters, such as\'Allow anyone on Team 1 who is also class engineer\', or \'Allow everyone except classes npc_zombie and npc_headcrab. Can this be about the retired engineer? RPG HALF-LIFE? WTFFFF

info_player_suit · **Reply #4:** on27 Jul 2019, 23:43:49

Quote from: mr_human21 on 27 Jul 2019, 17:11:13

I've made some research in leaked ep3 and hl3 related stuff, and here's the list.

###Weaponry###
weapon_proto1 "357.mdl" - A laser gun that could have had ability to see through walls and shoot trough them. Appeared in HL2 Aftermatch.

weapon_teleport "chargegun.mdl" - Return of Opposing Force's Displacer Cannon?

weapon_spygrenade - Unknown

weapon_pipebomblauncher - Almost nothing is known, probably was like tf2's launcher.

weapon_gauss "gauss.mdl" - Tau-cannon returns

weapon_flechettegun - A gun that had ability to shot hunter's flechette ammo?

weapon_egon "egon.mdl" - Gluon-gun returns too

weapon_flamethrower "flamethrower.mdl" - A flamethrower, nothing more.

weapon_icegun "icegun.mdl" - Not enough info.

NPC Weapons: dartgun, minigun, mortar, propeller, bomb, shield, RPG. - Npc weapons, almost nothing is known

item_ammo_uranium "item_ammo_uranium.mdl" - Tau-cannon and Gluon-gun ammo.

item_ammo_fuel - Maybe ammo for flamethrower?

weaponizer_concrete "weaponizer.mdl" - I still don't know what are these.

weaponizer_liquid "weaponizer.mdl"

weaponizer_metal "weaponizer.mdl"

###NPCs###

npc_combine_advisor_roaming "advisor.mdl" - Advisor with fully functioning AI.

npc_blob "blob.mdl" -Could have spawned tiny blobs, can merge with other blobs, can jump, had nests.(hives) Slimey creature that had brain and could spread?

npc_surface - Portal 2 gel physics test entity.

npc_blob_tiny "blob_tiny.mdl" - Tiny blob.

npc_blob_medium "blob_medium.mdl" - Medium blob.

npc_blob_small "blob_small.mdl" - Small blob.

npc_blob_large "blob_large.mdl" - Large blob.

npc_soldier_mid "soldier_mid.mdl" "margarita soldier?"

npc_soldier_large "soldier_large.mdl"

npc_soldier_fast "soldier_fast.mdl"

npc_composite_companion -almost nothing is known

npc_combine_armored "combine_soldier_armored.mdl" - Armored combine soldier, appears in half-life 2 aftermatch.

npc_wpnscanner - Weaponized city scanner, appeared in HL2 Aftermatch.

npc_quest_citizen - Citizen that could have given you quests?

npc_hunter_invincible - Combine hunter, but invincible?

npc_turret_celling_pulse - Probably an AR2 styled pulse celling turret.

###SFM REMNANTS###

hl3_movies - Is like tf2_movies foldier, probably for trailer and cinematics purpose?

dog_fight - I honestly don't know if it's ep2's dog vs strider remnants or completely new scene.

###Misc###

Zipline - It seems that you could have used a zipline in some places.

VR Mode - Maybe that's what hlvr will be?

Probably open world, i don't know for sure.

npc_blob is in the source particle benchmark and so is npc_surface, these are leftovers.

The Gman · **Reply #5:** on28 Jul 2019, 01:06:10

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npc_blob is in the source particle benchmark and so is npc_surface, these are leftovers.

Yeah, but why in ep3?

Evan · **Reply #6:** on28 Jul 2019, 01:19:10

Quote from: info_player_suit on 27 Jul 2019, 23:43:49

npc_blob is in the source particle benchmark and so is npc_surface, these are leftovers.

Yes but there's references in their code relating to HL3
as seen here in this video, at 5:43 - 6:03

Youre also missing the prop_hallucination which is a blue error (like the errors in portal) and when you look at it, it disappear then reappears behind you

Evan · **Reply #7:** on21 Mar 2020, 05:21:05

I was thinking about the npc_blob
They where testing the paint mechanics (specifically the paint blobs) in half-life2 while working on portal 2, so what if npc_blob was not ever a npc for the game or a generic npc, but just something that moves and can be interacted with to test blob mechanics, in the particle benchmark

Evan · **Reply #8:** on22 Mar 2020, 19:36:57

Quote from: Evan on 21 Mar 2020, 05:21:05

I was thinking about the npc_blob
They where testing the paint mechanics (specifically the paint blobs) in half-life2 while working on portal 2, so what if npc_blob was not ever a npc for the game or a generic npc, but just something that moves and can be interacted with to test blob mechanics, in the particle benchmark

so I was looking into this, I was thinking about npc_surface not blob but anyway, looking up at the wiki

"A colored entity named npc_surface, used to simulate dynamic liquids, can be spawned using a console command "give npc_surface". Interestingly, its model is named Hydra.mdl, but it appears to be different and cannot be found in the files. When touched, it takes away 5 health points. Hydra textures can also be found in the texture files. According to Erik Wolpaw, the experiment behind npc_surface was applied to the Mobility Gels in Portal 2, with additional influence from Tag: The Power of Paint."

PrisenShift · **Reply #9:** on27 Mar 2020, 22:26:36

So, there is some lines in HL:A With HL3 note that I found:

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hl3/models/characters/lazlo/maya/animation/library_poses/hand_poses.ma
hl3/models/characters/lazlo/maya/animation/library_poses/face_phonemes.ma
hl3/models/characters/lazlo/maya/animation/library_poses/face_expressions.ma
hl3/models/creatures/zombie_blind/maya/animation/jamalb/anim_ready/larry_turn180_run_resampled.ma
hl3/models/creatures/zombie_blind/maya/animation/jamalb/anim_ready/larry_turn180_run_clean_01.ma
hl3/models/characters/tanaka/maya/animation/tanaka_short_idle.ma
hl3/models/characters/tanaka/maya/animation/tanaka_hands_on_hips_idle.ma

1.If we open the Lazlo model in the game, we will see the Russel model. Most likely during the development period of HL3 he was named as Laslo, then Joseph (Source: VNN) and then Russel.
2. Jeff was also supposed to be in HL3, but he was moved to HL:A.
3. Tanaka is the Character, which we know nothing about.

Evan · **Reply #10:** on28 Mar 2020, 00:47:27

some insight to valve's timeline since 2007
https://www.ign.com/articles/valve-explains-why-half-life-2-episode-3-was-never-made

PrisenShift · **Reply #11:** on16 Nov 2024, 04:45:31

Axtsilversurf · **Reply #12:** on12 Feb 2025, 22:08:11

Mods, i don't know if you are reading this, but please, add new ep3 concept arts shown in the documentary to gallery

Shift · **Reply #13:** on13 Feb 2025, 09:38:18

In the meantime, you can check them at the regularly-updated Overwiki instead:
https://combineoverwiki.net/wiki/Category:Half-Life_2:_Episode_Three_concept_art

Axtsilversurf · **Reply #14:** on11 May 2025, 16:28:13

I see this wasn't discussed here (even though it's been a month already) but former valve employee posted some screenshots of their ep3 folder, and what we have from it:
1. Combine armored soldier armour piece
2. Folder of young Chell model (just Chell's head but with longer hair)
3. Props_snow folder (apparently all props related to arctic)
4. Some of their commentary