Unpatched AR1 model

Mister.K · on14 Aug 2018, 10:07:33

Why is v_ar1 unpatched have no animation and hands no animation?
Is it a place holder?

info_player_suit · **Reply #1:** on01 Jul 2019, 22:29:26

It's because its animations were never finished.

TheForgivenHacker · **Reply #2:** on02 Jul 2019, 21:56:37

I don't think they were never finished, i mean, the gun was used in early stages of development, and even has an earlier texture sheet. Maybe by the time the leak it was not meant to be used in game anymore and was merely a leftover.

Mister.K · **Reply #3:** on05 Jul 2019, 01:41:59

Also, did oicw without scopecase exist in beta?

Or is it made up information?

I've seen it in VNN s video

The Gman · **Reply #4:** on05 Jul 2019, 13:02:02

Quote from: gasmaskcitizen.mdl on 05 Jul 2019, 01:41:59

Also, did oicw without scopecase exist in beta?

Or is it made up information?

I've seen it in VNN s video

Yes it did, i found it on the facepunch (now closed) want link? I'll do mediafire if you want.

Temp_Acount21 · **Reply #5:** on05 Jul 2019, 22:22:16

are you sure its legit?

TheForgivenHacker · **Reply #6:** on05 Jul 2019, 22:31:46

i would really like that link mr_human

The Gman · **Reply #7:** on06 Jul 2019, 18:58:23

Quote from: TheForgivenHacker on 05 Jul 2019, 22:31:46

i would really like that link mr_human

https://www.mediafire.com/file/woyo2vyd1aiypjj/noscope_oicw.rar/file

TheForgivenHacker · **Reply #8:** on07 Jul 2019, 04:06:59

Thanks, although when putting in the game it shows the huge ERROR thing. Still, considering Facepunch is gone, its great this re-surfaced.

Temp_Acount21 · **Reply #9:** on07 Jul 2019, 05:07:48

Quote from: TheForgivenHacker on 07 Jul 2019, 04:06:59

Thanks, although when putting in the game it shows the huge ERROR thing. Still, considering Facepunch is gone, its great this re-surfaced.

the model its for the retail, thats why appears as an error

The Gman · **Reply #10:** on07 Jul 2019, 09:59:27

Quote from: Temp_Acount21 on 07 Jul 2019, 05:07:48

Quote from: TheForgivenHacker on 07 Jul 2019, 04:06:59
Thanks, although when putting in the game it shows the huge ERROR thing. Still, considering Facepunch is gone, its great this re-surfaced.

the model its for the retail, thats why appears as an error

I think they compiled the source files for retail.

Evan · **Reply #11:** on08 Jul 2019, 04:21:47

Quote from: Temp_Acount21 on 07 Jul 2019, 05:07:48

Quote from: TheForgivenHacker on 07 Jul 2019, 04:06:59
Thanks, although when putting in the game it shows the huge ERROR thing. Still, considering Facepunch is gone, its great this re-surfaced.

the model its for the retail, thats why appears as an error

Using the retail model viewer the model works but the textures do not

iPodHL2 · **Reply #12:** on25 Jul 2023, 11:50:15

There were hands they were just with the texture with the Ar1 and just don't move.

Wolfcl0ck · **Reply #13:** on25 Jul 2023, 19:49:02

Quote from: Mister.K on 14 Aug 2018, 10:07:33

Why is v_ar1 unpatched have no animation and hands no animation?
Is it a place holder?

The unpatched model is the second version of the AK47 model made by valve. We have textures for the first one but I don't believe we have the model itself anywhere. As for animations, we now have them thanks to the repo leaks. The animations were built with the red HEV arms in mind, meaning that it was likely a very early weapon. There are also references inside the HMG1 source code that suggests that its model was, for a while, the ak-47 (line 3 in weapon_hgm1.cpp states "Purpose: Heavy machine gun (currently an AK-47).")
What I think happened was that the AR1 was created very early on with the animations being made for it, then the animations were reworked for its temporary usage as the Heavy Machine Gun's viewmodel, then the new viewmodel was created, then the developers who were working on it decided that it was going to be cut and they never finished the model. Fast forward to the 2003 leak and we acquire this unfinished new model.