2002 Engine Changes

[Sarah]

What are the known changes in 2002 engine from 2003 engine? Also you can use this to talk about the 2002 Engine/old engines overall.

[The Gman]

Afaik, it's the viewmodel and view bob. Also model and map versions.

[bruno]

From what I know the 2002 engine had a lot more GoldSrc-ish elements in it like still using old enteties from HL1 [Wich is the reason why so many maps from 2000 to 2002 are so broken as they use obsolete entities]. It also had the original HL1 viewbob and viewroll [You can see it in action in the E3 2002 trailer if you look close enough] but thats all I know. If I'll have any more info then I'll provide it here later.

Edit: Also welcome to the forum. Enjoy your stay 

[Sarah]

From what I know the 2002 engine had a lot more GoldSrc-ish elements in it like still using old enteties from HL1 [Wich is the reason why so many maps from 2000 to 2002 are so broken as they use obsolete entities]. It also had the original HL1 viewbob and viewroll [You can see it in action in the E3 2002 trailer if you look close enough] but thats all I know. If I'll have any more info then I'll provide it here later.

Edit: Also welcome to the forum. Enjoy your stay 

Thanks first. Well damn.. Wish someone could put the hl1 bobbing into hl2 beta. Im trying to make Videos to "Simulate" how footage of 2002 would look like (scaling the quality down, putting old music on it etc)

[Frying1Pans]

they used earlier model versions

[Витой]

Wish someone could put the hl1 bobbing into hl2 beta. Im trying to make Videos to "Simulate" how footage of 2002 would look like (scaling the quality down, putting old music on it etc)

It's a code feature, so it can only be added by editing the code. VXP released some src of LeakNet so somebody who know how to do it can add it

[The Gman]

It's a code feature, so it can only be added by editing the code. VXP released some src of LeakNet so somebody who know how to do it can add it

But he doesn't want to .

[bruno]

Wish someone could put the hl1 bobbing into hl2 beta. Im trying to make Videos to "Simulate" how footage of 2002 would look like (scaling the quality down, putting old music on it etc)

It's a code feature, so it can only be added by editing the code. VXP released some src of LeakNet so somebody who know how to do it can add it

Blame VXP

I know that someone has uploaded the code to add back the viewbob and roll on this post [95navigator] so we can put it back, we just have to wait for VXP or someone else to add it to LeakNet.

[Sarah]

Wish someone could put the hl1 bobbing into hl2 beta. Im trying to make Videos to "Simulate" how footage of 2002 would look like (scaling the quality down, putting old music on it etc)

It's a code feature, so it can only be added by editing the code. VXP released some src of LeakNet so somebody who know how to do it can add it

Blame VXP

I know that someone has uploaded the code to add back the viewbob and roll on this post [95navigator] so we can put it back, we just have to wait for VXP or someone else to add it to LeakNet.

Well damn. If someone sees this post who has knoledge of how to do this Please do it. Alot of people would love it.

[boban.pejcic]

who has the 2002 engine?

[Temp_Acount21]

who has the 2002 engine?

no one (except maybe valve)

[Sarah]

who has the 2002 engine?

it's gone

[boban.pejcic]

who has the 2002 engine?

it's gone

when is it gone?

[bruno]

it's gone

when is it gone?

By saying it's gone, he means that it's simply inaccessible to us. Currently only Valve has the files for that version of the engine on some old hard drive somewhere probably and knowing Valve's current stance on any beta related content [Especially Half-Life 2] they're not going to just give it to us any time soon.
And even if they did, the only real differences are that that version still uses the obsolete entities for maps and has the old viewbob and viewroll. Both of which can be reimplemented and/or fixed in the 2003 leaked engine anyway.